* Login   * Register
It is currently Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:08 am

View unanswered posts | View active topics



All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic


 Post subject: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:48 am 
Offline
Contributing Member

Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:51 pm
Posts: 325
All across the world people are total nazis for grammar, why is that? Isn't grammar a form of communication that is varied as the next person.Nor do we as a people go up to another guy that talks "what up dog,what it do?" do you correct that person on the streets and call him stupid, attention whore ,or troll? nope.People just go about there ways .So why do people on forums across the net do this? I come here mainly due to the fact of a great community wonderful knowledge handed out to be enjoyed and learned from.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:26 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:08 pm
Posts: 260
Location: Airstrip One
Well, if this is a serious question, I'll attempt to answer it :D

Some reasons:

People are so picky about written grammar rather than, as it were, "spoken grammar" is because generally there's no impediment to understanding in spoken communication; you can understand easily what someone's saying phonetically, from context and from body language. In written communication, it's more difficult; a badly-worded or grammatically shocking message requires a lot more effort to read, and it feels like the effort that should've been spent typing it up correctly has been shifted for the reader to bear. In the same way as writing a text message in textspeak is easier for the author, but more difficult for the writer to interpret.

Also, people love to judge. Even people who don't think they love to judge. I always think of this evolutionarily; if you're a caveman encountering another caveman, you need to instantly assess whether this person is a friend or foe, hostile or vulnerable. It's not as important to get a well-rounded, 360 degree view of a person's character in a tribal situation. Therefore we're programmed to judge, judge quickly, and judge massively based on minor features. So if your grammar is poor, people will automatically deem you inferior and judge you for it, in the same way as reading some of my posts probably makes it sound like I have a massive superiority complex.

It's also a very cheap way of scoring points in an argument by appearing to be the civilized, logical person versus the barbaric, confused alternative. You can very easily demean someone in the eyes of everyone else (because we're so quick to judge) without really addressing any of their arguments. And a lot of people on the internet, who spend vast portions of their time on internet forums (no offence to the dozens of well-rounded individuals here, because I consider myself one of those people), regularly feel inferior to other people and need the ego boost that only comes with shooting someone down about grammar.

With all of that said, I think it's still mainly a question of effort, and it's a more level playing field if everyone puts the same thought into writing gramatically. Which I'm sure you do.

_________________
"The true measure of a man is not his intelligence or how high he rises in this freak establishment. No, the true measure of a man is this: how quickly can he respond to the needs of others and how much of himself he can give." - Philip K Dick


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:48 am 
Offline
Satrap
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 10:09 pm
Posts: 2618
Location: Ship of Fools
We just ask that you put as much effort into composing your posts as we do reading them.


_________________
"I think reasonable people could come up with a sensible standard. But I seem to be the only reasonable person around here." - drtrech
"See, what you don't realize, is that Apartheid is not necessarily a bad word to me, I supported the South Africans and Dixie too." - Smitty-48
"Knowingly providing the cake for a homosexual wedding would constitute formal cooperation with evil." - Dr. Strangelove


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:27 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:56 am
Posts: 375
Location: Zap, ND
If it's any consolation, there have been "grammar nazis" throughout history:



Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:40 pm 
Offline
Hetairoi
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:42 am
Posts: 5241
Location: Canadastan
The attention whore comments had nothing to do with the grammar.
They had to do with the icon of a creature holding a giant sign that read
"Pay attention to me!"

Your grammar has improved nicely.
So our grammar nazi ways are paying off.
Is the spell checker cramping your style, or why the beef?

DrY

_________________
"Trek requires no sunshine to be happy. He feeds off the despair of others like a dementor." e_room_matt

"Thank you so much for your assessment of my wickedness and the depth of my depravity and immersion in sin." drtrech


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:54 pm 
Offline
Contributing Member

Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:51 pm
Posts: 325
I'm not really mad but being called an attention whore, or stupid upsets me i come to this board because i love the podcast.Then i got addicted to the intelligence in this board ,and thats why i keep coming back yet i keep getting made fun of.I honestly try hard with everything i do i rarely ever slack off


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:12 pm 
Offline
Hetairoi
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:42 am
Posts: 5241
Location: Canadastan
Don't worry Chris.
You're kinda growing on us... Now that we can read what you're writing.
You have an inquisitive mind. And basically anybody who digs Dan Carlin is alright with us.

DrY

_________________
"Trek requires no sunshine to be happy. He feeds off the despair of others like a dementor." e_room_matt

"Thank you so much for your assessment of my wickedness and the depth of my depravity and immersion in sin." drtrech


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:44 pm 
Offline
Hetairoi
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:27 pm
Posts: 5444
Location: Austin, Texas
He's not growing on me, although his writing is improving. Still waiting for him to make sense.

_________________
"I unsettle all things. No facts are to me sacred; none are profane; I simply experiment, an endless seeker with no past at my back." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

"So who the fuck are you RAnthony? Are you anything like the people you don't respond to say you are?"


Last edited by RAnthony on Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:53 pm 
Offline
Hetairoi
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:42 am
Posts: 5241
Location: Canadastan
Have you heard MediaGhost lately...

DrY

_________________
"Trek requires no sunshine to be happy. He feeds off the despair of others like a dementor." e_room_matt

"Thank you so much for your assessment of my wickedness and the depth of my depravity and immersion in sin." drtrech


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:04 pm 
Offline
Nomarch
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:16 am
Posts: 2418
Location: Watthefuckistan
if a person doesn't understand the difference between "their", "there" and "they're", that person is generally an idiot.
Image
It is difficult to take someone seriously when they insist on expressing their deep thoughts with, "cuz we 4 tha rights uv thee pepl"

If you insist on other people translating YOUR gibberish (rather than you learning how to communicate with the rest of civilization), it comes off as selfish.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:02 pm 
Offline
Nomarch
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jun 24, 2009 9:34 pm
Posts: 1832
Location: Louisiana
If one were to determine what attribute the Grammer Nazi shares with a beast, it would be the cunning and the predatory instinct of a hawk. But if one were to determine what attributes the illiterate share with a beast, it would be that of the rat. If a rat were to log in right now as I'm talking, would you treat it to a saucer of your delicious milk?
:MaskedElvis:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:23 pm 
Offline
Satrap
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:07 am
Posts: 2973
Location: Somewhere crunching numbers
chris_s918 wrote:
I'm not really mad but being called an attention whore, or stupid upsets me i come to this board because i love the podcast.Then i got addicted to the intelligence in this board ,and thats why i keep coming back yet i keep getting made fun of.I honestly try hard with everything i do i rarely ever slack off


I think a commitment to improvement is an important part of this board. Many have made errors that have been embarrassing. But if you stay determined to learn and improve, it will eventually pay off.

I think with your starting to spell posts correctly, you are at least getting on the path to improvement.

_________________
There was a seminar for advanced students in Zürich that I was teaching and von Neumann was in the class. I came to a certain theorem, and I said it is not proved and it may be difficult. Von Neumann didn't say anything but after five minutes he raised his hand. When I called on him he went to the blackboard and proceeded to write down the proof. After that I was afraid of von Neumann.
How to Solve It, George Pólya

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
How to Build a Universe That Doesn't Fall Apart Two Days Later, Philip K. Dick

Drop in, post something, fight, get pissed off, and then find out you learned something along the way. You will find that is often a pattern you will go through in the D.C.F. ~ TheRidge


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:50 pm 
Offline
Archon
User avatar

Joined: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:21 pm
Posts: 35483
If everybody had a mom like Kath, this kind of thread would never exist.

_________________
“If the human race is to survive, then for all but a very brief period of its history, the word ship will mean space ship.” –Arthur C. Clarke


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:45 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:56 am
Posts: 375
Location: Zap, ND
chris_s918 wrote:
I'm not really mad but being called an attention whore, or stupid upsets me


Image

chris_s918 wrote:
i come to this board because i love the podcast.


Image

chris_s918 wrote:
Then i got addicted to the intelligence in this board,


Image

chris_s918 wrote:
and thats why i keep coming back yet i keep getting made fun of.I honestly try hard with everything i do i rarely ever slack off


Look, if you're really looking for a reasoned discussion of current events, you'd be far better off talking to a few reasonably intelligent friends and/or relatives. This is not the place for that.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: why do grammar nazis exist
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:49 am 
Offline
Hetairoi
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:42 am
Posts: 5241
Location: Canadastan
Wuzzup MediaGhost - afraid Chris is going to raise the standards around here so you're gonna try to scare him off.

DrY

_________________
"Trek requires no sunshine to be happy. He feeds off the despair of others like a dementor." e_room_matt

"Thank you so much for your assessment of my wickedness and the depth of my depravity and immersion in sin." drtrech


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  


Post new topic Reply to topic

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group


Home l Common Sense l Hardcore History l Donate l Community l Merchandise l Blog l About Us