Is the human fetus a parasite according to science?

raistian77 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:54 pm

de officiis wrote:

The resort to capital letters does not make an argument more persuasive, it merely signals an inability to control emotion. Some folks on this thread need to grow up a little, and learn a little respect for the views of others with whom they disagree.

Normally I do, to much to be honest.

However the OP and wombat are making ridiculous claims and in doing so I believe I am more than justified to respond in kind.

When posters decide their POV is that abortions after birth are fine I have decided I have every right to treat them as the children they are being. Sorry, but I don't have to be nice and polite to Hitler wanna-bes

Hell Wombat just proved my point, she claims that aborting black children lowers the crime rate.

Dr. Strangelove · **Joined:** Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:21 pm **Posts:** 25942

Quote:

Hell Wombat just proved my point, she claims that aborting black children lowers the crime rate.

Do I need to say it?

galerouth · **Joined:** Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:34 pm **Posts:** 29

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Show me a legitimate textbook or peer reviewed journal where a human fetus is referred to as a parasite. Please. Not your websites. Not your blogs. Link to a textbook in google books. Or link to a legitimate paper (as in published in a peer-reviewed journal and not lambasted by the rest of the scientific community).

wow, if you just go to the damn links and look sources, you will see where they came from.

galerouth · **Joined:** Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:34 pm **Posts:** 29

raistian77 wrote:

Normally I do, to much to be honest.

However the OP and wombat are making ridiculous claims and in doing so I believe I am more than justified to respond in kind.

really, when you can't prove ME wrong, how many times do i have to ask you to prove wrong?

WHEN I TYPE, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH EMOTION...I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO EVERYONE READING MY POINT BECAUSE IT STANDS OUT FROM THE REGULAR FRONT.

YOU HAVE YET, TO PROVE ME WRONG ON ANYTHING ACCORDING TO SCIENCE.

raistian77 wrote:

Hell Wombat just proved my point, she claims that aborting black children lowers the crime rate.

actually, freakonomics proved that abortions lowers crime.

raistian77 · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:22 pm

galerouth wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Show me a legitimate textbook or peer reviewed journal where a human fetus is referred to as a parasite. Please. Not your websites. Not your blogs. Link to a textbook in google books. Or link to a legitimate paper (as in published in a peer-reviewed journal and not lambasted by the rest of the scientific community).

wow, if you just go to the damn links and look sources, you will see where they came from.

Hell, I showed you a text book on parasites by a doctor for doctors that proved you wrong and you ignored it

Time for another verse of galerouth's troll sing along

Look, it's galerouth trying to talk to the trololololol guy

antisexualist.2 · **Joined:** Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:33 pm **Posts:** 201

de officiis wrote:

The resort to capital letters does not make an argument more persuasive, it merely signals an inability to control emotion. Some folks on this thread need to grow up a little, and learn a little respect for the views of others with whom they disagree.

I would disagree with this. Most of the time bigger font is used for emphasis. It takes more time to create so it's unlucky the writer is suffering from uncontrolable rage.

Sitri · **Joined:** Tue May 17, 2011 7:40 pm **Posts:** 375

Quote:

Hell, I showed you a text book on parasites by a doctor for doctors that proved you wrong and you ignored it

you know better than that, trying to use facts against hysterical bullshit. :snicker:

freewomban420 · **Joined:** Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:41 pm **Posts:** 180

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Quote:

Hell Wombat just proved my point, she claims that aborting black children lowers the crime rate.

Do I need to say it?

Stop trying to make this into a racial issue. Legal abortion lowers crime rate. Period. In whites too, by the way. Are you really this desperate? :lol:

galerouth · **Joined:** Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:34 pm **Posts:** 29

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

I don't care what you do to yourself. The minute you conceived a child, it's not about you any longer. That is the consequence of sex. If you are unprepared to live with the consequence, then don't have sex.

that's really stupid, you have a thing for writing stupid, non-legal TROLLISH shit.

1. why should i abstinent because i might get pregnant? a man can't hold his load, therefore i should FORCE in to abstinence? i have a right to enjoy my sexuality, without your pro-life-schizophrenic-fascism wanting to control it.

2. well, since you believe in human dignity and natural rights for non-sentient, parasitic beings aka your innocents unborn babies --- thanks for calling punishments.

NOW WE ARE STARTING TO REALIZE THE TRUTH OF THE PRO-LIFE-SCHIZOPHRENIC-FASCISM: YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT FETUSES ---THAT IS A RUSE, YOU WANT TO CONTROL WOMEN'S SEXUALITY, WHEN YOU HAVE NO LEGAL AUTHORITY!

THIS IS THE LAW:
ABORTION IS A CIVIL AND CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT SUPPORTED BY THE RIGHTS TO PRIVACY, THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE OF THE 14TH AMENDMENT, AND THE 13TH AMENDMENT.

NO HUMAN ( that means the FETUS, too) has a right to life or any due process rights by the 14th amendment to use another human's body or body parts AGAINST their will, civil and constitutional rights: that's why you are not forced to donate your kidney---the human fetus is no exception; this is supported by the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment AND 13th amendment, which makes reproductive slavery unconstitutional.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause

"Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth ... nstitution

this makes viability unconstitutional because pregnancy is not a crime.

consensual sex=/= a legal, binding contract to an unwanted fetus to live; and abortion is not murder, the unlawful killing with intent.

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Don't then demand I accept your murdering the child as some kind of choice. Your choice was already made.

embryo/fetus is not a child, but an offspring...children are born, google the human development chart.

consensual sex=/= a legal, binding contract to an unwanted fetus to live; and abortion is not murder, the unlawful killing with intent.

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Deliver the baby and give her up for adoption. Please do that. Because I truly do not want a child growing up around a mother who thinks infanticide is a fantastic idea.

sigh, infanticide is killing babies and it's illegal, not abortion or a miscarriage.

but the bible supported infanticide....so killing babies should be ok to every jew and christian --- it's in the B-I-B-L-E!

THE BIBLE:
the bible supported abortion, that was done by a priest, in god's name, in his holly temple!
the 1984 NIV footnote of numbers 5:11-31 explained what "to thy thigh to rot, they belly to swell" meant: numbers 5:21 "or causes you to have a miscarrying womb and barrenness" to CAUSE a miscarrying womb IS an abortion.

'Ephraim, as I saw Tyre, is planted in a pleasant place; but Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer." Give them, O LORD -- what wilt Thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts...Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit; yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.'
HOSEA 9-16

http://www.evilbible.com
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_ ... rtion.html

galerouth · **Joined:** Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:34 pm **Posts:** 29

freewomban420 wrote:

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Quote:

Hell Wombat just proved my point, she claims that aborting black children lowers the crime rate.

Do I need to say it?

Stop trying to make this into a racial issue. Legal abortion lowers crime rate. Period. In whites too, by the way. Are you really this desperate? :lol:

yes, they are desperate--- they are pro-life-schizophrenic-fascists, anything thing logical that goes against their illogical, schizophrenic morality, is automatically wrong --- even though they can't prove us wrong.

cognitive dissonance and fallacies are strong in these people, because they were brainwashed to believe they are fighting the good fight against us evil pro-choicers--- ironically, no of them actually care about a pregnant stranger to buy them a year supply of water filters.

we are dealing with people who believe in fantasy here--- they know that reproductive slavery is unconstitutional, but they just don't care.

galerouth · **Joined:** Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:34 pm **Posts:** 29

Sitri wrote:

galerouth wrote:

Sitri wrote:

And yet, you don't add anything to prove the OP, and it kinda sucks. It's mostly just wiki crap and other forums.

that is rich coming from you, a person who has not even tried to debunk the science but thinks cop-outs are valid arguments.

please prove that sources from wiki wrong.... OH YOU CAN'T, because if you had the science, you would of debunked me by now.

and why do i need to add more science to the OP and waste my time
when you and others can't prove simple science wrong?

Sitri wrote:

I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I don't care one way or the other, the whole topic is just semantics.
As far as I'm concerned, you're just troll #3, and a poor substitute for the other two. As far as data's concerned, it does matter where the data originates and picking and choosing random snippets can prove or disprove anything.

then you ARE trying to prove me wrong by saying the science that i posted and my claim is just semantics, and not science ---which IS a lie on your part, because my claim is supported the same science that you said sucks, but you can't prove it wrong for some reason.

i'm pretty sure you know difference between semantics and science, do you?

YOU ARE A TROLL AND THIS IS MY THREAD.

looks like I hit a nerve, funny how not caring about a subject but despising the method of argument pisses people off.

yes, being lied to and lied about is annoying, but you know that your opposition has no solid ground, no logical argument against you ---and just being a troll.

it just helps my credibility more, thanks.

Dr. Strangelove · **Joined:** Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:21 pm **Posts:** 25942

So I guess it's a no-go on references to a single reputable textbook or peer-reviewed paper that refers to a fetus as a parasite.

Hmm.. I couldn't have guessed they would have nothing. :sleepy:

Dr. Strangelove · **Joined:** Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:21 pm **Posts:** 25942

Interesting:

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Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves said the bill “should effectively close the only abortion clinic in Mississippi.” He added, “This is a strong bill that will effectively end abortion in Mississippi.”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/planne ... ssippi-law

I guess that's one state without an abortion industry. 49 to go. :popcorn:

The Road Rascal · **Posted:** Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:51 pm

Dr. Strangelove wrote:

Interesting:

Quote:

Lt. Gov. Tate Reeves said the bill “should effectively close the only abortion clinic in Mississippi.” He added, “This is a strong bill that will effectively end abortion in Mississippi.”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/planne ... ssippi-law

I guess that's one state without an abortion industry. 49 to go. :popcorn:

They've banned coathanger factories as well?

Dr. Strangelove · **Joined:** Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:21 pm **Posts:** 25942

Of course. Because banning abortions is exactly the same thing as forcing women to shove coat hangers up their vaginas. Thanks for your insight.

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