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Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Lie Seeking Missle » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:20 pm

Instead of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, shouldn't the kids perhaps recite the Bill of Rights even if it takes a bit longer ?
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby boethius » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:43 pm

The Bill of Rights as written, or what's left of them in practice?

The latter would save considerable time....
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby The Mad Zeppelineer » Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:45 pm

That be a long ass morning announcements...
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby AndySike » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:49 pm

I don't say the Pledge anyways. Why should I pledge allegiance to a corrupt nation, where I learn nothing useful, and I have to swear to a God I don't believe in.
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Gregg » Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:51 pm

Lie Seeking Missle wrote:Instead of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, shouldn't the kids perhaps recite the Bill of Rights even if it takes a bit longer ?


I like that idea!
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby WillyGilligan » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:40 pm

Not a fan. Not because I dislike the Bill of Rights, but because rote repetition:learning::sledgehammer:screws. It will get it in there, but it blunts the best features. Listen to a classroom reciting the Pledge sometime. It's atonal repetition of sounds, looks like the cult of personality nonsense we used to mock dictatorships for, and only appears to engender an idolatry for the flag with no regard for the principles of our country. You really want to make the Bill of Rights some rote chore that signifies "that thing we used to do before the morning announcements"?
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Gregg » Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:09 pm

WillyGilligan wrote:Not a fan. Not because I dislike the Bill of Rights, but because rote repetition:learning::sledgehammer:screws. It will get it in there, but it blunts the best features. Listen to a classroom reciting the Pledge sometime. It's atonal repetition of sounds, looks like the cult of personality nonsense we used to mock dictatorships for, and only appears to engender an idolatry for the flag with no regard for the principles of our country. You really want to make the Bill of Rights some rote chore that signifies "that thing we used to do before the morning announcements"?


I agree with you if you mean schools forcing kids to recite the Bill of Rights each day. But, parents should teach their kids the rights that they have as included in the Bill of Rights. Also, repetition is a valid learning technique.
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Okeefenokee » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:16 pm

i agree it loses its meaning. both the pledge and the national anthem are just syllables. it was a long time before i went through the words of the anthem and understood what it said.
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Dr. Strangelove » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:43 pm

I don't think many Americans have any idea what emotion the poem was meant to convey. They have no concept of what it was like for the man to watch his nation attacked, to wonder all night if his countrymen would endure, and then to see his flag still raised in defiance of such a brutal night's attack. Americans no longer truly deserve the assumption that they shall always have a nation. They abrogated their responsibility to it. They no longer even care much that it might endure.

Before this gets any better, Americans will know first hand what Francis Scott Key felt on the deck of any enemy frigate, wondering if his nation would ever again exist.
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Re: Bill Of Rights > Pledge of Allegiance

Postby Okeefenokee » Fri Aug 26, 2011 4:58 pm

i feel like i'm watching the falcons lose. they're down by 30 or 40 and are getting smashed, but i keep watching until the end with a glimmer of hope that as long as there is time on the clock, they can still come back to win. others around have no illusions of the outcome and know i must be a true fan to continue watching with a faint hope until the end counts down.
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