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 Post subject: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:09 am 
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I wish this was an April Fools joke, but this is an example of the mainstream news not reporting things that would make the Democrats look bad...

Rep. Hank Johnson: Guam could 'tip over and capsize'



This happened on March 25th, 2010, and this was never reported... are you kidding that people like this are voted in and allowed to vote on legislation that may change and in many cases change the way our very lives are treated in this country?

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Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is afraid that the U.S. Territory of Guam is going to "tip over and capsize" due to overpopulation.

Johnson expressed his worries during a House Armed Services Committee hearing on the defense budget Thursday.

Addressing Adm. Robert Willard, who commands the Navy's Pacific Fleet, Johnson made a tippy motion with his hands and said sternly, "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize."

Willard paused and said: "We don't anticipate that."

Like other islands, Guam is attached to the sea floor, which makes it extremely unlikely that it will tip over, even if there are lots and lots of people on it. Guam is 30 miles long and up to 9 miles wide in certain spots, with a population of 175,000 civilians. The military is proposing the addition of 8,000 U.S. service members and their families.

Reached for comment, a spokesman for Johnson said the lawmaker had visited Guam, and his concern was that the influx of military personnel would overwhelm the island's infrastructure and ecosystem.

The comment comes 1:20 into the clip.


Hindsight it 20/20 Senator...

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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:18 am 
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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:27 am 
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Conservative, it may be that your search did not yield results because you searched for "Senator Johnson" and he is a member of the House of Representatives. So, not a senator. The media are indeed covering this highly stupid and ridiculous Democratic congressman, if you phrase your search correctly.

So, just to be clear, Conservative:

Our government has two legislative bodies, the US Senate and the US House of Representatives. Each state has two senators, while the number of representatives varies based on population. The individual under discussion is a member of the House of Representatives, and not a senator, so if you search for "Senator Johnson" then it's not surprising you won't find the stories covering him.

But he is a moron. More so than you, even.

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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:35 am 
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vive42 wrote:
Conservative, it may be that your search did not yield results because you searched for "Senator Johnson" and he is a member of the House of Representatives. So, not a senator. The media are indeed covering this highly stupid and ridiculous Democratic congressman, if you phrase your search correctly.

So, just to be clear, Conservative:

Our government has two legislative bodies, the US Senate and the US House of Representatives. Each state has two senators, while the number of representatives varies based on population. The individual under discussion is a member of the House of Representatives, and not a senator, so if you search for "Senator Johnson" then it's not surprising you won't find the stories covering him.

But he is a moron. More so than you, even.


It should of come up with something, shouldn't it? If you do Johnson it comes up with something that shows the oldest post was 41 hours ago. That was a non-mainstream poster.

As for the rest, yes you are right, I was wrong upon where he was seated, not that it really matters I have a feeling this upcoming election. The fact is that it is being covered up, end of story.

As for my search, I didn't do "Senator Johnson", I did Senator Johnson, which is an entirely different Boolean search, which Google knows the difference of. Even though you may not.

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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
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The Conservative wrote:
It should of come up with something, shouldn't it? If you do Johnson it comes up with something that shows the oldest post was 41 hours ago. That was a non-mainstream poster.

As for the rest, yes you are right, I was wrong upon where he was seated, not that it really matters I have a feeling this upcoming election. The fact is that it is being covered up, end of story.

As for my search, I didn't do "Senator Johnson", I did Senator Johnson, which is an entirely different Boolean search, which Google knows the difference of. Even though you may not.

You must just be unlucky,
I ran the serach, here are the first three hits:
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Quote of the Day: Guam Might Capsize
Newsweek (blog) - ‎2 hours ago‎
"My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize." —Rep. Hank Johnson, during a House Armed Services ...
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Hank Johnson Worries Guam Could "Capsize" After Marine Buildup
CBS News - Stephanie Condon - ‎2 hours ago‎
Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is raising some eyebrows with a comment he made about the US territory of Guam during a House Armed Services Committee hearing ...
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Democrat Rep. Hank Johnson worries loading too many people onto Guam could ...
Los Angeles Times (blog) - ‎9 hours ago‎
First, before you watch this short but remarkable video, a little background on Democratic Rep. Hank Johnson. He's from Georgia's Fourth District. ...

Last I checked Newsweek, CBS, and the LA Times qualified as Mainstream

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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:44 am 
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I'm at school so I don't want to listen to the video, but is it possible he meant it metaphorically?

It seems hard to believe that a Congressman wouldn't know that islands aren't out there floating.

Then again we do have one who thinks that Dinosaurs roamed the earth with humans like the Flintstones. So maybe this guy is just a complete idiot.

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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
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TheAmericanNomad wrote:
I'm at school so I don't want to listen to the video, but is it possible he meant it metaphorically?

It seems hard to believe that a Congressman wouldn't know that islands aren't out there floating.

Then again we do have one who thinks that Dinosaurs roamed the earth with humans like the Flintstones. So maybe this guy is just a complete idiot.

Evidently he was speaking metaphorically:
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"I wasn't suggesting that the island of Guam would literally tip over," Johnson says via a spokesman. "I was using a metaphor to say that with the addition of 8,000 Marines and their dependents -- an additional 80,000 people during peak construction to the port on the tiny island with a population of 180,000 -- could be a tipping point which would adversely affect the island's fragile ecosystem and overburden its already overstressed infrastructure

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4.Attitude polarization. Exposing subjects to an apparently balanced set of pro and con arguments will exaggerate their initial polarization.
5.Attitude strength effect. Subjects voicing stronger attitudes will be more prone to the above biases.
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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:55 am 
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Nomad, he sounds really out of it. I don't think there's any excuse- the man is probably a legitimate moron.

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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
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I don't know how his spokesman are spinning this but.... he most definitely was NOT speaking metaphorically.

He felt it was very important to show and explain the island's length versus its width, and the nice tipping his head and hands to the side to show a physical tipping over were nice visuals too.

"It could tip over and capsize."

The dudes a retard... no surprise though, being a politician, I assumed that much from the beginning. They are all guilty til proven innocent.

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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
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nmoore63 wrote:
I don't know how his spokesman are spinning this but.... he most definitely was NOT speaking metaphorically.

He felt it was very important to show explain its length versus its width, and the nice tipping his head and hands to the side to show a physical tipping over were nice visuals too.

"It could tip over and capsize."

The dudes a retard... no surprise though, being a politician, I assumed that much from the beginning. They are all guilty til proven innocent.


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 Post subject: Re: I fear that Guam is going to flip over and sink!
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I don't think there can be any mistake about it. He actually does the flip-over motion with his hands when he says capsize.

But I for one and grateful he is bringing this concern to the public eye. I have been saying for years that NASA is running the risk of poking a hole in our atmosphere with its rockets and letting all our air leak out.


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Newsweek wrote:
On Monday, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran an exclusive in which Johnson admitted to having hepatitis C. Reporter Bob Keefe writes:

The Lithonia Democrat's already-thin frame has shed 30 pounds in the past year. His speech is slower than ever, and he regularly gets lost in thought in the middle of a discussion. He is easily fatigued and often impatient and irritable . . . To keep the disease in remission, Johnson is going through an experimental treatment that he said has been the worst part so far.
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Newsweek wrote:
On Monday, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran an exclusive in which Johnson admitted to having hepatitis C. Reporter Bob Keefe writes:

The Lithonia Democrat's already-thin frame has shed 30 pounds in the past year. His speech is slower than ever, and he regularly gets lost in thought in the middle of a discussion. He is easily fatigued and often impatient and irritable . . . To keep the disease in remission, Johnson is going through an experimental treatment that he said has been the worst part so far.
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Ooof. Took all the fun out of that one...

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docfaraday wrote:
exposno1 wrote:
Newsweek wrote:
On Monday, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran an exclusive in which Johnson admitted to having hepatitis C. Reporter Bob Keefe writes:

The Lithonia Democrat's already-thin frame has shed 30 pounds in the past year. His speech is slower than ever, and he regularly gets lost in thought in the middle of a discussion. He is easily fatigued and often impatient and irritable . . . To keep the disease in remission, Johnson is going through an experimental treatment that he said has been the worst part so far.
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Ooof. Took all the fun out of that one...

:unsure: yeah, tends to lead to dementia. But on the other hand wouldn't it be prudent to consider replacing him?

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vive42 wrote:
Nomad, he sounds really out of it. I don't think there's any excuse- the man is probably a legitimate moron.

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It should of come up with something, shouldn't it? If you do Johnson it comes up with something that shows the oldest post was 41 hours ago. That was a non-mainstream poster.

As for the rest, yes you are right, I was wrong upon where he was seated, not that it really matters I have a feeling this upcoming election. The fact is that it is being covered up, end of story.

As for my search, I didn't do "Senator Johnson", I did Senator Johnson, which is an entirely different Boolean search, which Google knows the difference of. Even though you may not.

You must just be unlucky,
I ran the serach, here are the first three hits:
Quote:
Quote of the Day: Guam Might Capsize
Newsweek (blog) - ‎2 hours ago‎
"My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize." —Rep. Hank Johnson, during a House Armed Services ...
Quote:
Hank Johnson Worries Guam Could "Capsize" After Marine Buildup
CBS News - Stephanie Condon - ‎2 hours ago‎
Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.) is raising some eyebrows with a comment he made about the US territory of Guam during a House Armed Services Committee hearing ...
Quote:
Democrat Rep. Hank Johnson worries loading too many people onto Guam could ...
Los Angeles Times (blog) - ‎9 hours ago‎
First, before you watch this short but remarkable video, a little background on Democratic Rep. Hank Johnson. He's from Georgia's Fourth District. ...

Last I checked Newsweek, CBS, and the LA Times qualified as Mainstream


Of course it is going to be publicized someone on the radio started to say something about it, but if you noticed at the time of the post it was 9 hours at most, but when it was stated it was days before even when I posted it here.

Unless you noticed vive, as I stated before main stream only picked it up several hours ago... not the days when it was originally stated.

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