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That Obamacare

Postby Talksintext » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:12 am

Just saying, I love that we're now being forced to pay $300 each month for nothing more than catastrophic emergency coverage with a $13k deductible.

What's the penalty if we don't again? Someone convince me this is really worth it.

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Re: That Obamacare

Postby Myrtok » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:57 pm

Talksintext wrote:Just saying, I love that we're now being forced to pay $300 each month for nothing more than catastrophic emergency coverage with a $13k deductible.

What's the penalty if we don't again? Someone convince me this is really worth it.

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Not all of that $300 a month isn't meant for you.Some portion of that goes into subsidies for those less fortunate than yourself. Think of it as Obama's way to help force you to do your Christian charitable duties. Thanks to your generous donations, millions of people who have quit or been fired from every job they ever got will be able to get the same or better plan for free! You're also enabling the fast food and retail industries to go on paying a non-living wage since you're making up the difference for their employees in terms of food stamps and health care.

Your $300 is getting you all that, plus Obama is saving your soul. Feel better now?
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby The Conservative » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:09 pm

Talksintext wrote:Just saying, I love that we're now being forced to pay $300 each month for nothing more than catastrophic emergency coverage with a $13k deductible.

What's the penalty if we don't again? Someone convince me this is really worth it.

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I wish it was only $300 a month... in Mass it's about $500 starting.
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby mydogjesse » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:53 pm

I (thankfully) get company-provided insurance (around $500/month for our portion, $7,500 family out-of-pocket), so I don't know how Obamacare works, but I thought catastrophic insurance wasn't allowed anymore?
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby Talksintext » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:55 pm

Myrtok wrote:Not all of that $300 a month isn't meant for you.Some portion of that goes into subsidies for those less fortunate than yourself. Think of it as Obama's way to help force you to do your Christian charitable duties. Thanks to your generous donations, millions of people who have quit or been fired from every job they ever got will be able to get the same or better plan for free! You're also enabling the fast food and retail industries to go on paying a non-living wage since you're making up the difference for their employees in terms of food stamps and health care.

Your $300 is getting you all that, plus Obama is saving your soul. Feel better now?
I feel like it's all just going to insurance companies and I'm paying the vast majority of it to pay for:
1) old people that don't want to die
2) people who never could take care of their health

When do we get to vote for death panels?
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby Smitty-48 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:03 am

Y'all pay $500 a month for your healthcare coverage? Shit, that would suck, that's like a new car right there right thur, and a pretty nice one too.
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby The Conservative » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:57 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Y'all pay $500 a month for your healthcare coverage? Shit, that would suck, that's like a new car right there right thur, and a pretty nice one too.


Yes it is, and in many cases, we are forced to pay for it, which means that rent, and food in some cases are now optional... to our own detriment. Especially for those with one income only.
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby Talksintext » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:55 am

Smitty-48 wrote:Y'all pay $500 a month for your healthcare coverage? Shit, that would suck, that's like a new car right there right thur, and a pretty nice one too.
It is.

In our cases, we're both fairly young adults, no real medical history, no issues, healthy weight, healthy lives, no smoking, etc.

$300/$12500 is the bare minimum now apparently for a couple. I wouldn't mind it if we had dual income, I guess. If we want a reasonable deductible, it's $500-700.

Given our odds of needing it anytime soon are so low, it's practically a $300/mo organ tax.

But with everyone forced to get healthcare, you're going to end up having the healthiest paying a lot more for the least healthy, because what choice do the healthiest have anymore?

So, Death Panel Movement, who's with me? Time to put the kibosh to the terminally ill being paid $10K/day to hang on a few months and 95yos $5K/day for an extra 6mo lingering in the ICU. Here's some pure heroin, have a blast and goodbye :wave:
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby carlisimo » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:18 am

The deductible is high enough to defeat much of the purpose of having health insurance; that's upsetting, and enough to sour me on the ACA.
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby Partyof5 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:17 am

Talksintext wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Y'all pay $500 a month for your healthcare coverage? Shit, that would suck, that's like a new car right there right thur, and a pretty nice one too.
It is.

In our cases, we're both fairly young adults, no real medical history, no issues, healthy weight, healthy lives, no smoking, etc.

$300/$12500 is the bare minimum now apparently for a couple. I wouldn't mind it if we had dual income, I guess. If we want a reasonable deductible, it's $500-700.

Given our odds of needing it anytime soon are so low, it's practically a $300/mo organ tax.

But with everyone forced to get healthcare, you're going to end up having the healthiest paying a lot more for the least healthy, because what choice do the healthiest have anymore?

So, Death Panel Movement, who's with me? Time to put the kibosh to the terminally ill being paid $10K/day to hang on a few months and 95yos $5K/day for an extra 6mo lingering in the ICU. Here's some pure heroin, have a blast and goodbye :wave:

You wanna talk death panels? How about a dose for the one of you that's not working, since that person is not contributing to society.
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby The Conservative » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:29 pm

Partyof5 wrote:
Talksintext wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:Y'all pay $500 a month for your healthcare coverage? Shit, that would suck, that's like a new car right there right thur, and a pretty nice one too.
It is.

In our cases, we're both fairly young adults, no real medical history, no issues, healthy weight, healthy lives, no smoking, etc.

$300/$12500 is the bare minimum now apparently for a couple. I wouldn't mind it if we had dual income, I guess. If we want a reasonable deductible, it's $500-700.

Given our odds of needing it anytime soon are so low, it's practically a $300/mo organ tax.

But with everyone forced to get healthcare, you're going to end up having the healthiest paying a lot more for the least healthy, because what choice do the healthiest have anymore?

So, Death Panel Movement, who's with me? Time to put the kibosh to the terminally ill being paid $10K/day to hang on a few months and 95yos $5K/day for an extra 6mo lingering in the ICU. Here's some pure heroin, have a blast and goodbye :wave:

You wanna talk death panels? How about a dose for the one of you that's not working, since that person is not contributing to society.


If you are talking about me, I have a part time job that gives me just enough hours to pay for gas. It still doesn't pay any bills, and right now the cost of health care is going up another 5% to 10%, and our gas and electricity in Mass is going up another 25 to 40% depending on where you live.
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby nmoore63 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 1:06 pm

Death Panels!
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby Talksintext » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:32 pm

Partyof5 wrote:You wanna talk death panels? How about a dose for the one of you that's not working, since that person is not contributing to society.
Shes not dying?

You seem to have a terminal case of irrationality, though... Would you like 500g of pure heroin?
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby NiceGuy1252 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:45 pm

Myrtok wrote:You're also enabling the fast food and retail industries to go on paying a non-living wage since you're making up the difference for their employees in terms of food stamps and health care.

Great point. It's not much better in the private sector though. I would like 500g of the big H, at least I would be considerably less bothered by my enormous deductible.
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Re: That Obamacare

Postby Partyof5 » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:24 pm

The Conservative wrote:If you are talking about me, I have a part time job that gives me just enough hours to pay for gas. It still doesn't pay any bills, and right now the cost of health care is going up another 5% to 10%, and our gas and electricity in Mass is going up another 25 to 40% depending on where you live.

Did I quote you? No. So why would think I was talking about you. I was referring to the one calling for death panels whose household only has a single income.
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