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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:22 pm 
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This is ridiculous, for the reasons that TAN mentioned and the fact that the objects that were thrown/dumped on the school girls were condoms, what kind of damage would a condom do, its not going to cause a concussion and cut someone, its not likely to mentally damage the "Victims" so whats the fuss. Perhaps if it had been rocks or some other hard object then yeah you would have a reason to complain, but Condoms. Honestly Hondo calm down.


So, does that mean if somebody threw cooked ground beef at a bunch of vegans who were just going about their day, you'd tell them not to complain about it?

Hardly analogous.

If it was ground beef packaged in 1/4 ounce foil packets which permitted no physical contact with the ground beef, left no beef residue on the target, and was too lightweight to create a painful impact, it would be a better analogy.

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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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I find this to be extremely unlikely. Why? To what ends? I sincerely doubt the alleged event even occurred.

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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:27 pm 
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I don't think anyone supports pelting girls with condoms, whether they're catholic or not.

I also don't think a revolution is going to kick off because FOXNews and some fascist blogger have made up a story to get their rubes all riled up.

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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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Yeah Hondos over the top OP made me laugh. Violence caused by condom throwing? If that ever happened then that will be the day i loose all hope for humanity


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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:47 pm 
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Well, mindless violence does live in the Catholic DNA.

You don't see OWS protesters burning people at the stake for saying the earth is round or putting them to the rack for blasphemy.


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I find this to be extremely unlikely. Why? To what ends? I sincerely doubt the alleged event even occurred.

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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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You don't see OWS protesters burning people at the stake for saying the earth is round.

How old are you that you SAW people being burned at the stake for saying the earth is round?

Notwithstanding the fact, of course, that the Medievals knew the Earth is round and that the notion that the Church taught a flat Earth is a fiction created by authors centuries later for ideological and political purposes (first by Protestants, then by atheists and agnostics).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

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The myth of the Flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical.[1]

This idea seems to have been widespread during the first half of the 20th century, so that the Members of the Historical Association in 1945 stated that:

"The idea that educated men at the time of Columbus believed that the earth was flat, and that this belief was one of the obstacles to be overcome by Columbus before he could get his project sanctioned, remains one of the hardiest errors in teaching." [2]

During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained the spherical viewpoint first expressed by the Ancient Greeks. By the 14th century, belief in a flat earth among the educated was essentially dead.

However, among Medieval artists, depictions of a flat earth remained common.[citation needed] The exterior of the famous triptych The Garden of Earthly Delights by Hieronymus Bosch is a Renaissance example in which a disc-shaped earth is shown floating inside a transparent sphere.[3]

According to Stephen Jay Gould, "there never was a period of 'flat earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology."[4]

Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[5]

Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell says the flat earth error flourished most between 1870 and 1920, and had to do with the ideological setting created by struggles over evolution.[6] Russell claims "with extraordinary [sic] few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat," and credits histories by John William Draper, Andrew Dickson White, and Washington Irving for popularizing the flat-earth myth.[7]

The myth that people in the Middle Ages thought the earth is flat appears to date from the 17th century as part of the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching. But it gained currency in the 19th century, thanks to inaccurate histories such as John William Draper's History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science (1874) and Andrew Dickson White's History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (1896). Atheists and agnostics championed the conflict thesis for their own purpose ...

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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[5]



Bet they burned him


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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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I heard the pope is getting ready to announce that the CC acknowledges we aren't the only planet in the universe, any day now. Is this true? :snicker:

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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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boethius wrote:
drtrech wrote:
You don't see OWS protesters burning people at the stake for saying the earth is round.

How old are you that you SAW people being burned at the stake for saying the earth is round?

Notwithstanding the fact, of course, that the Medievals knew the Earth is round and that the notion that the Church taught a flat Earth is a fiction created by authors centuries later for ideological and political purposes (first by Protestants, then by atheists and agnostics).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_Flat_Earth

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The myth of the Flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical.[1]

This idea seems to have been widespread during the first half of the 20th century, so that the Members of the Historical Association in 1945 stated that:

"The idea that educated men at the time of Columbus believed that the earth was flat, and that this belief was one of the obstacles to be overcome by Columbus before he could get his project sanctioned, remains one of the hardiest errors in teaching." [2]

During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained the spherical viewpoint first expressed by the Ancient Greeks. By the 14th century, belief in a flat earth among the educated was essentially dead.

However, among Medieval artists, depictions of a flat earth remained common.[citation needed] The exterior of the famous triptych The Garden of Earthly Delights by Hieronymus Bosch is a Renaissance example in which a disc-shaped earth is shown floating inside a transparent sphere.[3]

According to Stephen Jay Gould, "there never was a period of 'flat earth darkness' among scholars (regardless of how the public at large may have conceptualized our planet both then and now). Greek knowledge of sphericity never faded, and all major medieval scholars accepted the earth's roundness as an established fact of cosmology."[4]

Historians of science David Lindberg and Ronald Numbers point out that "there was scarcely a Christian scholar of the Middle Ages who did not acknowledge [Earth's] sphericity and even know its approximate circumference".[5]

Historian Jeffrey Burton Russell says the flat earth error flourished most between 1870 and 1920, and had to do with the ideological setting created by struggles over evolution.[6] Russell claims "with extraordinary [sic] few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat," and credits histories by John William Draper, Andrew Dickson White, and Washington Irving for popularizing the flat-earth myth.[7]

The myth that people in the Middle Ages thought the earth is flat appears to date from the 17th century as part of the campaign by Protestants against Catholic teaching. But it gained currency in the 19th century, thanks to inaccurate histories such as John William Draper's History of the Conflict Between Religion and Science (1874) and Andrew Dickson White's History of the Warfare of Science with Theology in Christendom (1896). Atheists and agnostics championed the conflict thesis for their own purpose ...

Really? That's your defense?

"The Catholic Church burned people at the stake, but not for saying the world is round."

Well done.


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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:14 pm 
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I have to see something other than an opinion piece before I decide the story is real.

So far I say it is fake

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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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Rastian,

Why did you swap out the revered Adm. Adama for . . . what is that? Harry Potter's metro-sexual friend? WTF is that new avatar?

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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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Rastian,

Why did you swap out the revered Adm. Adama for . . . what is that? Harry Potter's metro-sexual friend? WTF is that new avatar?


WHAT you dont watch Doctor Who......


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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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Kath wrote:
I heard the pope is getting ready to announce that the CC acknowledges we aren't the only planet in the universe, any day now. Is this true? :snicker:

Nothing but malicious rumor. :hmph:


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 Post subject: Re: Occupiers Dump Condoms on Catholic School Girls
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DBTrek wrote:
I don't think anyone supports pelting girls with condoms, whether they're catholic or not.

I also don't think a revolution is going to kick off because FOXNews and some fascist blogger have made up a story to get their rubes all riled up.

But it does make good fodder for Kath and drtrech's gratuitous Catholic-bashing, one of the few prejudices that is still socially acceptable in our PC age.

So, you have to credit the OP with THAT....

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