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100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby Carlus Magnus » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:21 pm

100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit, and Taxes too. Rather than only 75% of GOP Candidates


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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby DBTrek » Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:36 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby Carlus Magnus » Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:38 pm

It is a true statement. And the Current Dem candidate has raised the Deficit $4 Trillion already.

I've been quite balanced on this. Let's not turn this deficit issue into a D vs R thing, I'm pointing out that we right now have at minimum an 80% chance of having higher deficits if either a D or an R are elected.

When we only highlight that the one side of the Duopoly are doing this it gives us an incomplete picture.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby sventoby » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:06 pm

4/5 candidates are basically advocating the status quo
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby The Mad Zeppelineer » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:45 pm

Thats a joke. They will all raise the deficit.

If you seriously cannot see how this works by now, you never will.

Party A comes into power. Party B starts caring about debt.

Party B comes into power. Party A starts caring about debt.

Simple formula. Remember it, then be shocked when it happens every single time.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby StCapps » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:50 pm

The Mad Zeppelineer wrote:Thats a joke. They will all raise the deficit.
Ron Paul would veto any bill that raises the deficit plus his budget plan actually reduces it. I know it's highly unlikely that Ron Paul is ever president but don't lump him in with Bush, Obama, Santorum, Romney and Gingrich on the deficit reduction tip because that's simply inaccurate.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby raistian77 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:51 pm

The Mad Zeppelineer wrote:Thats a joke. They will all raise the deficit.

If you seriously cannot see how this works by now, you never will.

Party A comes into power. Party B starts caring about debt.

Party B comes into power. Party A starts caring about debt.

Simple formula. Remember it, then be shocked when it happens every single time.



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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby The Mad Zeppelineer » Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:02 pm

StCapps wrote:
The Mad Zeppelineer wrote:Thats a joke. They will all raise the deficit.
Ron Paul would veto any bill that raises the deficit plus his budget plan actually reduces it. I know it's highly unlikely that Ron Paul is ever president but don't lump him in with Bush, Obama, Santorum, Romney and Gingrich on the deficit reduction tip because that's simply inaccurate.


And he would be overrided by congress. It would actually be hilarious to watch. A man who refuses to compromise on anything being the most veto-happy president in US history. He'd also be the weakest.

Ironically, his weakness (which he believes is mandated by the constitution) would also make him totally ineffective at the reforms he supports. From a history fan perspective, it be the most fun since Andrew Johnson.

Im sure they'd be able to get plenty of tax cuts for the rich passed. On that they can always agree.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby StCapps » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:55 pm

The Mad Zeppelineer wrote:
StCapps wrote:
The Mad Zeppelineer wrote:Thats a joke. They will all raise the deficit.
Ron Paul would veto any bill that raises the deficit plus his budget plan actually reduces it. I know it's highly unlikely that Ron Paul is ever president but don't lump him in with Bush, Obama, Santorum, Romney and Gingrich on the deficit reduction tip because that's simply inaccurate.


And he would be overrided by congress. It would actually be hilarious to watch. A man who refuses to compromise on anything being the most veto-happy president in US history. He'd also be the weakest.

Ironically, his weakness (which he believes is mandated by the constitution) would also make him totally ineffective at the reforms he supports. From a history fan perspective, it be the most fun since Andrew Johnson.

Im sure they'd be able to get plenty of tax cuts for the rich passed. On that they can always agree.
How would any other potential president who wanted to reform the status quo do any better than Ron Paul at reducing the deficit? You seem to be holding out for a politician who will never exist and the current crop of contenders to be POTUS from 2012-2016 would all be worse at reducing the deficit than Paul would. So why shit all over the best option available at the moment?
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby Waleis » Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:57 pm

The debt isn't necessarily our fundamental problem here. If we slow down federal spending domestically, the entire consumer economy will be gutted.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby StCapps » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:00 pm

Waleis wrote:The debt isn't necessarily our fundamental problem here. If we slow down federal spending domestically, the entire consumer economy will be gutted.
Which is why you need to cut overseas military spending so that you don't have to cut as much domestically. When it comes to these kinds of proposals Ron Paul is infinitely better than the rest of the field.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby Waleis » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:06 pm

StCapps wrote:When it comes to these kinds of proposals Ron Paul is infinitely better than the rest of the field.

Even if Ron Paul is elected, defense spending won't be cut significantly. Congress will still be the same. Domestic spending will certainly be cut though...Ron Paul and most of congress are all for that.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby StCapps » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:08 pm

Waleis wrote:
StCapps wrote:When it comes to these kinds of proposals Ron Paul is infinitely better than the rest of the field.

Even if Ron Paul is elected, defense spending won't be cut significantly. Congress will still be the same. Domestic spending will certainly be cut though...Ron Paul and most of congress are all for that.
Well if Ron Paul can't cut military spending significantly than no other presidential contender is going to be able to. So I don't know who you are looking for on that front.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby Waleis » Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:09 pm

StCapps wrote:Well if Ron Paul can't cut military spending significantly than no Presidential contender is going to be able to.

Exactly. It doesn't matter who we elect as president, unless Congress is changed as well...which it almost certainly won't be.
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Re: 100% of DEM Candidates will Raise the Deficit

Postby DeputyVanHalen » Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:19 pm

Waleis wrote:The debt isn't necessarily our fundamental problem here. If we slow down federal spending domestically, the entire consumer economy will be gutted.


That's the Paul Krugman line. I don't buy it.

But even if it's true, the slowdown is going to happen soon no matter what. There isn't an infinite amount of money out there available for borrowing. We'll be bumping up against the limit in no time. When that judgment day gets here, nothing congress or the president does can change the basic facts of the situation. It's like trying to change the laws of physics.
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