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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:38 pm 
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I'm with Vox on this one, Anon's threat is over-stated. So far the big hits and breaches of government security haven't come from hackers like Anonymous, it's been from the old fashioned way; informants leaking info out onto sites like WikiLeaks. In such a large entity such as the government the threat's always been from within. If ever the grid does go down, it's going to be largely from the act of a disillusioned Government employee on the inside, not the sole work of teenagers in their bedrooms.



Not true at all. They've hacked the FBI several time, the UN at least twice, the Syrian President's email, email of the FBI several times.

there is too much to list. There have been secrets reported in the news that came from Anon, regardless if they didn't state the sources.

do google searches, you'll find it.

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:37 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:51 am 
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By the way, the real story behind the CIA thing is that the website crashed by accident. They hacked into some Pedophile groups to set up their networks to hit the CIA so the CIA would be forced to investigate them. It accidentally brought down the website. Anonymous contacted the CIA and told them what was up.

You can google that too.

It's probably in Hacker News, RT or Anon News.

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:02 am 
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This is the whole 2nd ammendment/gun lobby thing again...

The fed will not go after anon. They will track, regulate, and strangle the access and lives of the general populace. There really is no better path to 1984 than anonymous. Isolated incidents will be brushed off, but if they continue to pester the government at increasing levels, you can guarantee that will be the result.



Eh, they'll only get noobs. The government is truly inept.

L2P, that's the point. :facepalm:

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:22 am 
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Isolated incidents will be brushed off, but if they continue to pester the government at increasing levels, you can guarantee that will be the result.


It was this part of your post that provoked the response.

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:39 am 
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Galen120 wrote:
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Isolated incidents will be brushed off, but if they continue to pester the government at increasing levels, you can guarantee that will be the result.


It was this part of your post that provoked the response.

The uptick in attacks, or the appearance of such, will enable the legislature to use their favorite tool, fear, to pass sweeping, restrictive legislation on everyone. They won't simply assemble a task force to take down anonymous. (See Iraq, Afghanistan)

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
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The uptick in attacks, or the appearance of such, will enable the legislature to use their favorite tool, fear, to pass sweeping, restrictive legislation on everyone. They won't simply assemble a task force to take down anonymous. (See Iraq, Afghanistan)



Oh, I am a 100% with ya. That's why I am passing around so much information on how to keep people's computers safe and kind of introducing people to Black Hat protection. It's not illegal, but it will confound.

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
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Galen120 wrote:
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The uptick in attacks, or the appearance of such, will enable the legislature to use their favorite tool, fear, to pass sweeping, restrictive legislation on everyone. They won't simply assemble a task force to take down anonymous. (See Iraq, Afghanistan)



Oh, I am a 100% with ya. That's why I am passing around so much information on how to keep people's computers safe and kind of introducing people to Black Hat protection. It's not illegal, but it will confound.

Ah, my bad. Carry on. :ugeek

Noscript and perfect passwords ftw. :geek:

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
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Quasigriz wrote:
Galen120 wrote:
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The uptick in attacks, or the appearance of such, will enable the legislature to use their favorite tool, fear, to pass sweeping, restrictive legislation on everyone. They won't simply assemble a task force to take down anonymous. (See Iraq, Afghanistan)



Oh, I am a 100% with ya. That's why I am passing around so much information on how to keep people's computers safe and kind of introducing people to Black Hat protection. It's not illegal, but it will confound.

Ah, my bad. Carry on. :ugeek

Noscript and perfect passwords ftw. :geek:



My problem is I went back to school for journalism, tired of science and emergency management is a bunch of old boys network D bags. Well, I like getting news near the sources or where I can find sources. So I feel I put myself a little in danger of gov. monitoring.

Fun days we have when we have to be worried about being marked a terrorist...

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
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Scared of Anonymous? NSA chief says you should be
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"Between now and 2030, the electric grid will confront significant new challenges and inevitably undergo major changes," the researchers said. "Despite alarmist rhetoric, there is no crisis here. But we do not advise complacency."

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
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Well of course we should be scared little sheep, and we should grant the government extraordinary surveillance and rendition powers to indefinitely detain and interrogate anyone acting "suspiciously" with a computer...

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 Post subject: Re: Government setting up a war with Anonymous?
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Well of course we should be scared little sheep, and we should grant the government extraordinary surveillance and rendition powers to indefinitely detain and interrogate anyone acting "suspiciously" with a computer...

Just wait till it polls high enough, and you'll start hearing it from our keystone candidates. :shakinghead:

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