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 Post subject: Most Evil man in modern history
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:55 pm 
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OK i concede that this topic may have been raised before but i am to lazy to scroll through 4 pages of discussion topics to find it so here goes( i also know that 4 pages is not a lot, don't judge me time management is not my strong point)

I was having a debate with my friend the other day and the topic of who (or whom) the most evil man in modern history may be. Every one of my friends simultaneously said Hitler ( i do not joke that all pretty much said it at the same time). i laughed and said that i believed the most evil man in modern history ( modern history for me starts at 1900 and is still going on to the present date) was Joseph Stalin. i said i believed this because he killed more people than Hitler, staved his own people for money ( the so called "great Famine"), adopted a brutal wartime no retreat policy and condemned Russian POW to death on return to Soviet Russia, oh and was planning world war 3 with nukes ( lucky he died when he did). at this point the discussion with my friends ceased to be relevant to the topic, but it did raise a very good question. just who (or whom) was the most evil man/woman in modern history, was it Stalin, Hitler or Someone else entirely. what are your thoughts.
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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:24 pm 
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What is your criteria for evil ?
If you solely base it on the largest number for people killed, then I think Mao Zedong has Hitler and Stalin beat together.

Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years'
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-enter ... 81630.html

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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:36 pm 
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In terms of the pure number of people killed Mao has his fellow genocidal maniacs beat but it's safe to say that him, Stalin and Hitler are the evil man triumvirate of the 20th Century.

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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
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A person can do evil things but still be a moral person. At the same time, an evil person can do good things. Would you, for example, call Truman evil for nuking those Japanese islands? Would you consider Charlemagne evil for slaughtering all those Saxons in the Netherlands and northern Germany?

This question isn't as simple as it appears.

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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:56 pm 
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I'm voting for this old guy:

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:snicker: (Very few of you will get the joke) :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:02 am 
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Flynn wrote:
I'm voting for this old guy:

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:snicker: (Very few of you will get the joke) :lol:

The most evil, and hilarious, man alive today. :goteam:

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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:11 am 
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Waleis wrote:
Flynn wrote:
I'm voting for this old guy:

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:snicker: (Very few of you will get the joke) :lol:
The Great Hetairoi Troll
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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:27 am 
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Has tone mohamud killed more then stallin and communist china and hitler ever will with his evilness same for Jesus


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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
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chris_s918 wrote:
Has tone mohamud killed more then stallin and communist china and hitler ever will with his evilness same for Jesus


While horrific acts have been committed in their names, the men themselves weren't anything like Stalin, Hitler, or Mao. Jesus never even led military forces, and Muhammad was quite merciful in war by the standards of his time.


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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
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chris_s918 wrote:
Has tone mohamud killed more then stallin and communist china and hitler ever will with his evilness same for Jesus

Nothing on God's green Earth is more evil than your atrocious grammar.

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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
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If they only gave DB a window in that airless IT dungeon. :snicker:
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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
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Well Stalin and hitler killed less the most military personal do all the killing was done in sones ones name in ww2 sans for Jesus and mahamod they were done in there names the wonderful crusades n whipping out villages due you choose my faith or die it's easier to call Stalin at least a good man he wanted to weed out the week in his ppl got to keep them strong .unlike the big two they try to control every aspect of everything hitler just wanted loyalty and all that jazZ


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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
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chris_s918 wrote:
Well Stalin and hitler killed less the most military personal do all the killing was done in sones ones name in ww2 sans for Jesus and mahamod they were done in there names the wonderful crusades n whipping out villages due you choose my faith or die it's easier to call Stalin at least a good man he wanted to weed out the week in his ppl got to keep them strong .unlike the big two they try to control every aspect of everything hitler just wanted loyalty and all that jazZ

Nothing on God's green Earth is more evil than your atrocious grammar.

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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
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You've got my support on the Hitler-Stalin debate. The latter was way worse IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Most Evil man in modern history
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:22 am 
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Flynn wrote:
I'm voting for this old guy:

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:snicker: (Very few of you will get the joke) :lol:


Bastard!

I have a salt mine waiting for you . .. and your neighbors.
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